First impression
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First impression
Well... if you're here you probably tried it.
What do you think? We're very curious
What do you think? We're very curious
Re: First impression
Definitely something we'd like to use, however this tool could really use integration with PitStop, so we could make our own custom checks. Perhaps such integration is planed?
Re: First impression
Just installed and even though I intentionally "messed with" the PDF imported, it's not flagged any of the issues I created.
I rotated a few pages 90 degrees, and removed the bleed on others, but the left pane only shows Seps and Trim size - no warnings like the demo presentation showed. Is this a really REALLY stripped down release? Was hoping to have some Admins give it a test drive, but if it's just a glorified PDF Viewer, I'll wait.
I rotated a few pages 90 degrees, and removed the bleed on others, but the left pane only shows Seps and Trim size - no warnings like the demo presentation showed. Is this a really REALLY stripped down release? Was hoping to have some Admins give it a test drive, but if it's just a glorified PDF Viewer, I'll wait.
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Re: First impression
You should be seeing warnings and errors for image resolution, missing fonts and missing bleed on the left hand Panel Rob?
You can ping me your test file if you want, you have my email I think.
You can ping me your test file if you want, you have my email I think.
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Re: First impression
Andrew,
Ok, I maybe should have tested a few more files! I did a sample PDF out of InDesign with the same intentional errors and boarding Pass did indeed flag them & display in the left pane. However, I rotated one of the pages 90 degrees and it's still displaying ALL the pages as right reading, no warning about a bad rotation in the PDF.
Here's the Sample PDF I created.
Ok, I maybe should have tested a few more files! I did a sample PDF out of InDesign with the same intentional errors and boarding Pass did indeed flag them & display in the left pane. However, I rotated one of the pages 90 degrees and it's still displaying ALL the pages as right reading, no warning about a bad rotation in the PDF.
Here's the Sample PDF I created.
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Re: First impression
Rob_Wh:
PitStop sees the rotation as 270 degrees. This has given me fits in the past when trying to impose. Certain software honors that rotation, others do not. So, I ran the action, "Zero Rotation Key" and checked the file again with BoardingPass.
PitStop sees the rotation as 270 degrees. This has given me fits in the past when trying to impose. Certain software honors that rotation, others do not. So, I ran the action, "Zero Rotation Key" and checked the file again with BoardingPass.
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Somewhat familiar with Enfocus products.
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Re: First impression
Yep, it's the Rotate Key. Thanks Rob, added it to the list for development!!
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Re: First impression
No problem! Can't tell you how many times the "Zero Rotation Key" has gotten me in trouble.
Re: First impression
Hey there,
I have installed BP for all our CSRs and I think it can save a massive amount of time in prepress.
I like the simplicity. Only issue so far: the bleed warning: customers do not accept when we send them a report with a bleed warning for the inside (binding) edge of pages. Not sure how to improve (odd/even pages don't always fall consistently).
If our CSRs have to do too much vetting, they will get lazy and pass on to prepress.
I have installed BP for all our CSRs and I think it can save a massive amount of time in prepress.
I like the simplicity. Only issue so far: the bleed warning: customers do not accept when we send them a report with a bleed warning for the inside (binding) edge of pages. Not sure how to improve (odd/even pages don't always fall consistently).
If our CSRs have to do too much vetting, they will get lazy and pass on to prepress.
Re: First impression
Tested.
Daily we process 3000-5000 files ranging between 20K-50K pages. Each job can be somewhere between 50-200 documents/files.
75% is not PDF, but native office documents.
the 25% being PDFs are 99% with problems, which according to BP qualify them for rejection.
In our case - the people submitting the jobs are only messengers and they do not prepare those mostly office type documents. Nothing pretty, purely written information.
Pinging it back to them, with a few page long report the BP generates literally means - it never gets corrected and resubmitted (they are just the messengers and would not even know any of what the report says) and the job is lost due to that, as we work with short 24-48h timelines with global requestors where additionally time zones add to the mix of issues.
So in summary - completely of no use to us.
Daily we process 3000-5000 files ranging between 20K-50K pages. Each job can be somewhere between 50-200 documents/files.
75% is not PDF, but native office documents.
the 25% being PDFs are 99% with problems, which according to BP qualify them for rejection.
In our case - the people submitting the jobs are only messengers and they do not prepare those mostly office type documents. Nothing pretty, purely written information.
Pinging it back to them, with a few page long report the BP generates literally means - it never gets corrected and resubmitted (they are just the messengers and would not even know any of what the report says) and the job is lost due to that, as we work with short 24-48h timelines with global requestors where additionally time zones add to the mix of issues.
So in summary - completely of no use to us.
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Re: First impression
That kind of volume you need something like PitStop Server and it's correction capabilities.
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Re: First impression
Thank you Andrew for your input, indeed we have Switch and PitStop Server engaged taking the loadabailescollins wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:06 pm That kind of volume you need something like PitStop Server and it's correction capabilities.
I was just curious to find out whether the BP could somehow be quicker and consistent with regards to what it identifies as issues.
Yet did not expect every single file to have such a long list of problems
We'll stick with processing with Switch