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Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:29 pm
by St3ve
Hello,

The action needed is for banners that have extra image to fold over onto the back and vice versa on the front. To have this correct means that I need to copy the image from page 2 (Back image) of a pdf and paste on page 1.
Top & Bottom copied image needs to be rotated 180 degrees and moved to the top & bottom.
Left & Right copied image needs page 2 image trim right to be on page 1 trim left AND page 2 image trim left to be on page 1 trim right.

I would love a solution where this can be as above (Page 2 image copied and moved onto page 1 AND opposite (Page 1 image copied and moved onto page 2)

I have mastered creating an action that the left and right on both pages are correct. I can action page 2 image top & bottom onto page 1.

I cannot get page 1 image top & bottom to be on page 2.

Below is the original input pdf.
Original 2 page
Original 2 page
Original PDF with 2 pages.png (209.17 KiB) Viewed 2320 times
After the actions - Attachment below shows both pages (Pages 1&2 - Left & Right correct. Page 1 - Top & Bottom correct. Page 2 Top & Bottom wrong)
Using Actions with Page 1 correct and Page 2 wrong
Using Actions with Page 1 correct and Page 2 wrong
Pitstop Actions performed.png (196.77 KiB) Viewed 2320 times
Action List so far - Just need to work out a way to get the page 1 copied on to page 2, rotated and moved top and bottom just like what I have achieved for page 1.
Action list so far
Action list so far
Action List.png (187.07 KiB) Viewed 2320 times
I have tried so many combinations but all fail to action the page 2 as I need.

Thanks Steve :) :)

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:39 pm
by CruzinCooler
Split Action

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:43 pm
by St3ve
CruzinCooler wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:39 pm Split Action
thank you, could you elaborate please. I had tried the split action but could only get page 1 working and not page 2. Many Thanks

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:02 pm
by loicaigon
Have a look at the workshop that introduces the "Split Action List":
https://learning.enfocus.com/course/view.php?id=215
In a nutshell, if you need an action list to do something backward, you would need to use "Split Action List" to "restart" processing from page 1.
This is also required if you add pages to the document for ex and when you want to act upon those new pages, you would need to use "Split Action List" to let PitStop consider those new pages as part of the document.

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:27 am
by Robbie
We are using this flow for doublke sides banners with fold

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:06 am
by St3ve
loicaigon wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:02 pm Have a look at the workshop that introduces the "Split Action List":
https://learning.enfocus.com/course/view.php?id=215
In a nutshell, if you need an action list to do something backward, you would need to use "Split Action List" to "restart" processing from page 1.
This is also required if you add pages to the document for ex and when you want to act upon those new pages, you would need to use "Split Action List" to let PitStop consider those new pages as part of the document.
Thank you, will look at this

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:07 am
by St3ve
Robbie wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:27 am We are using this flow for doublke sides banners with fold
Dubbelzijdige banner met tunnels(verschillend beeld).eal.zip
Thank you, I have looked at this and tweaked to suit. The only thing is that Page 2 has a knocked out area where the folds are rather than taking elements from Page 1 and adding to Page 2.

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 11:34 am
by Robbie
St3ve wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:07 am
Robbie wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:27 am We are using this flow for doublke sides banners with fold
Dubbelzijdige banner met tunnels(verschillend beeld).eal.zip
Thank you, I have looked at this and tweaked to suit. The only thing is that Page 2 has a knocked out area where the folds are rather than taking elements from Page 1 and adding to Page 2.
yes becouse that is the inside of the fold and we dont need an image there.

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 4:15 am
by PPNINJA
arrgghh pocketed banners top and bottom
try attached

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 9:02 am
by St3ve
Robbie wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2025 11:34 am
St3ve wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:07 am
Robbie wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:27 am We are using this flow for doublke sides banners with fold
Dubbelzijdige banner met tunnels(verschillend beeld).eal.zip
Thank you, I have looked at this and tweaked to suit. The only thing is that Page 2 has a knocked out area where the folds are rather than taking elements from Page 1 and adding to Page 2.
yes becouse that is the inside of the fold and we dont need an image there.
Understood for pockets/tunnels but for hems I want to be able to have it correct on both sides so there are no errors on which way it is folded so need to have a solution that shows both sides with the other sides designs on the folds. Cheers though :-)

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:31 pm
by Robbie
Wel i think if you copy step 5 and 6 in the action and change the page where it needs to copy and paste it you can do what you need. Just is een bit trying and see what happens.

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:35 pm
by St3ve
Robbie wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:31 pm Wel i think if you copy step 5 and 6 in the action and change the page where it needs to copy and paste it you can do what you need. Just is een bit trying and see what happens.
Thank you, really appreciate the input :) :)

Re: Double Sided Different Image Banner

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:36 pm
by St3ve
PPNINJA wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 4:15 am arrgghh pocketed banners top and bottom
try attached
I will have a play with this and feedback when I get chance. Thank you :) :)